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		<title>By: crm intelligence &#38; strategy @crm intelligence &#38; strategy</title>
		<link>http://www.estebankolsky.com/2009/11/21/why-chatter-matters/comment-page-1/#comment-3349</link>
		<dc:creator>crm intelligence &#38; strategy @crm intelligence &#38; strategy</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] see the progress that Chatter had made since the announcement at Dreamforce 2009.  If you recall, I thought it was interesting from the platform perspective &#8211; not as an [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>crm intelligence &#38; strategy @crm intelligence &#38; strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote about Chatter back in November, and Genesys couple of weeks ago &#8212; and in both I expressed my firm belief [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as cloud-applications.  Salesforce gets it now, as they&#8217;ve shown when they released Chatter as part of the PaaS and linked to Service Cloud 2 and other Force.com applications.  And Genesys [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

that is an interesting comment.  i think that the short-term benefit would be more licenses, but in the long-run the platform becomes the key component here.  licenses change meaning when you can rent the platform, much more interesting business model.

thanks
esteban</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>that is an interesting comment.  i think that the short-term benefit would be more licenses, but in the long-run the platform becomes the key component here.  licenses change meaning when you can rent the platform, much more interesting business model.</p>
<p>thanks<br />
esteban</p>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Once a troublemaker, always one I guess.  That is a great idea, but I not very certain that is implementable... right?

However, being able to work in a joint manner with your partners - even work the negotiations via social media for a deal with a vendor.  Now, those are interesting ideas I can sink my teeth into...

Thanks for the read
Esteban</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Once a troublemaker, always one I guess.  That is a great idea, but I not very certain that is implementable&#8230; right?</p>
<p>However, being able to work in a joint manner with your partners &#8211; even work the negotiations via social media for a deal with a vendor.  Now, those are interesting ideas I can sink my teeth into&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the read<br />
Esteban</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ziman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Ziman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice summary, Estaban.   I agree with your overall assessment that there&#039;s nothing technologically overwhelming here.   
My thoughts...there&#039;s one key aspect to why this is so important to SF.com and particularly *their* salesforce...This will help sell more SF.com licenses.  For examples, those ops, marketing, and product management folks that normally would be involved in email strings will now want to be part of the internal (chatter) conversation, and able to be closer to the account detail.  
In almost every enterprise deal or large customer support issue, there&#039;s a tremendous amount of internal information discussed, exchanged, and executed.  If that conversation gets moved from email to inside SF.com, it will not only cement the usage of sf.com, but sell more licenses.  And, hence, as the CRM market grows, sf.com might claim a better percentage.
Also, very interesting that Benioff never used the term - Social CRM - in his keynote.  Why?  &#039;Cause what sf.com launched is what Oracle refers to as Social CRM -- Internal sales collaboration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice summary, Estaban.   I agree with your overall assessment that there&#8217;s nothing technologically overwhelming here.<br />
My thoughts&#8230;there&#8217;s one key aspect to why this is so important to SF.com and particularly *their* salesforce&#8230;This will help sell more SF.com licenses.  For examples, those ops, marketing, and product management folks that normally would be involved in email strings will now want to be part of the internal (chatter) conversation, and able to be closer to the account detail.<br />
In almost every enterprise deal or large customer support issue, there&#8217;s a tremendous amount of internal information discussed, exchanged, and executed.  If that conversation gets moved from email to inside SF.com, it will not only cement the usage of sf.com, but sell more licenses.  And, hence, as the CRM market grows, sf.com might claim a better percentage.<br />
Also, very interesting that Benioff never used the term &#8211; Social CRM &#8211; in his keynote.  Why?  &#8216;Cause what sf.com launched is what Oracle refers to as Social CRM &#8212; Internal sales collaboration.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ragsdale</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ragsdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I am able to understand the business value within the marketing speak of the announcement, the interesting part to me would be adding social aspects, including increased transparency, to standard customer facing workflow objects. Like asking friends (and competitors) to comment on a pending sales quote. Now THAT could be interesting.
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		<title>By: The biggest things last week: Foursquare and Salesforce &#124; Geek News and Musings</title>
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		<dc:creator>The biggest things last week: Foursquare and Salesforce &#124; Geek News and Musings</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: The biggest things last week: Foursquare and Salesforce &#187; Ecommerce Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The biggest things last week: Foursquare and Salesforce &#187; Ecommerce Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Esteban &amp;#75ols&amp;#107y &amp;#119r&amp;#105t&amp;#101s &#8220;Why Chatt&amp;#101r Matt&amp;#101rs.&#8221; 2. Z&amp;#68Ne&amp;#116&#8217;s &amp;#68ion Hin&amp;#99h&amp;#99&amp;#108iffe: Sa&amp;#108&amp;#101sforc&amp;#101 &amp;#67&amp;#104att&amp;#101r: [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>The biggest things last week: Foursquare and Salesforce</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Esteban Kolsky writes &#8220;Why Chatter Matters.&#8221; 2. ZDNet&#8217;s Dion Hinchcliffe: Salesforce Chatter: Social Operating Systems emerge on the IT [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-11-22 &#124; Brian Magierski</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-11-22 &#124; Brian Magierski</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Chitter Chatter: Salesforce.com ups the Enterprise 2.0 Ante &#124; Pretzel Logic - Enterprise 2.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chitter Chatter: Salesforce.com ups the Enterprise 2.0 Ante &#124; Pretzel Logic - Enterprise 2.0</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Thanks for reading, the good comment, and the kind words in your blog about this write-up.

I am glad to be getting the perspective of someone who has a vendor-twist and vendor-understanding to this situation.  I totally agree with you about the interesting part of Chatter (yet- we won&#039;t know until a year from now whether it delivers on that key point) is making applications social.  The demos I saw from people doing applications in Force.com and leveraging the Chatter API were far more interesting than the use within SFDC&#039;s applications.

As for the PaaS interconnectivity, I think that we are moving in the right direction, but wish that MSFT, AMZN, and the other large PaaS providers were to get on board with that (I had a conversation with a vendor that is hosting their solution on AMZN at the show, and they are now thinking about migrating to Force.com to take advantage of Chatter and the promise of interconnectivity that was underneath the materials they made available on Force.com to partners).  It going to be more than necessary to have as many PaaS providers as we can to get the cloud off the ground (if I was truly poetic I would say that we need to get the fog lifted and converted to a real cloud - bad pun).  I agree it looks promising -- but that is the subject of next blog post -- probably Monday.

Thanks, again, for the kind words...
Esteban</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Thanks for reading, the good comment, and the kind words in your blog about this write-up.</p>
<p>I am glad to be getting the perspective of someone who has a vendor-twist and vendor-understanding to this situation.  I totally agree with you about the interesting part of Chatter (yet- we won&#8217;t know until a year from now whether it delivers on that key point) is making applications social.  The demos I saw from people doing applications in Force.com and leveraging the Chatter API were far more interesting than the use within SFDC&#8217;s applications.</p>
<p>As for the PaaS interconnectivity, I think that we are moving in the right direction, but wish that MSFT, AMZN, and the other large PaaS providers were to get on board with that (I had a conversation with a vendor that is hosting their solution on AMZN at the show, and they are now thinking about migrating to Force.com to take advantage of Chatter and the promise of interconnectivity that was underneath the materials they made available on Force.com to partners).  It going to be more than necessary to have as many PaaS providers as we can to get the cloud off the ground (if I was truly poetic I would say that we need to get the fog lifted and converted to a real cloud &#8211; bad pun).  I agree it looks promising &#8212; but that is the subject of next blog post &#8212; probably Monday.</p>
<p>Thanks, again, for the kind words&#8230;<br />
Esteban</p>
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		<title>By: Stop obsessing about Enterprise 2.0 ROI! &#124; Brian Magierski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop obsessing about Enterprise 2.0 ROI! &#124; Brian Magierski</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Here is a link to one of the most intelligent things I believe has been said about the Enterprise 2.0 / Enterprise Social Networking / Enterprise Collaboration space yet &#8230; and it was written by a blogger who&#8217;s expertise is in CRM intelligence and strategy! It is well worth a read &#8211; Why Chatter Matters &#8211; and it is about Salesforce.com&#8217;s recent announcement of Chatter (coverage here and here)within it&#8217;s Force.com platform. Note &#8211; Chatter will not be released until the Spring of 2010. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Magierski</title>
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		<description>Hi Esteban,
Nice post, I think you hit the nail on the head with regard to Chatter and it&#039;s applicability. It is infrastructure and what many of the vendors in the Enterprise 2.0 world miss when looking for ROI. Who calculated the ROI on email? Yet, a lot of money was and continues to be spent on Exchange servers. 

What is cool about Chatter is that it puts social info and collaboration into the workflow of real business applications. This is the promise of social computing in the enterprise, and it does require infrastructure / infrastructure investment. Not only will it drive productivity, any enterprise that does not social-enable or make collaborative its applications will not be able to function in the not too distant future. After all, it is people that are working with these apps and the more informed and connected they are and the more streamlined the work, the better. 

With respect to your larger point in the comments above of whether the cloud will fulfill the long-held promise of a distributed architecture, it depends on how open Force.com will be in playing with other PaaS players. So far, it looks promising.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Esteban,<br />
Nice post, I think you hit the nail on the head with regard to Chatter and it&#8217;s applicability. It is infrastructure and what many of the vendors in the Enterprise 2.0 world miss when looking for ROI. Who calculated the ROI on email? Yet, a lot of money was and continues to be spent on Exchange servers. </p>
<p>What is cool about Chatter is that it puts social info and collaboration into the workflow of real business applications. This is the promise of social computing in the enterprise, and it does require infrastructure / infrastructure investment. Not only will it drive productivity, any enterprise that does not social-enable or make collaborative its applications will not be able to function in the not too distant future. After all, it is people that are working with these apps and the more informed and connected they are and the more streamlined the work, the better. </p>
<p>With respect to your larger point in the comments above of whether the cloud will fulfill the long-held promise of a distributed architecture, it depends on how open Force.com will be in playing with other PaaS players. So far, it looks promising.<br />
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		<title>By: Mark Tamis</title>
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		<description>Not wrong (as usual :))- a real advance would be distributed AND redundant architectures for apps AND data with performance independent whatever your geographic location is. Even Google has issues with this (think Gmail outages over the past year). And btw Gmail has a online chat feature built in)

I think the real evolution is the general acceptance of the Cloud for Business purposes - having the tools managed externally so that you can concentrate on your business (co-creation of value with your ecosystem).

The Marketing (or Education) has worked well...now let&#039;s get down to business!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not wrong (as usual <img src='http://www.estebankolsky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )- a real advance would be distributed AND redundant architectures for apps AND data with performance independent whatever your geographic location is. Even Google has issues with this (think Gmail outages over the past year). And btw Gmail has a online chat feature built in)</p>
<p>I think the real evolution is the general acceptance of the Cloud for Business purposes &#8211; having the tools managed externally so that you can concentrate on your business (co-creation of value with your ecosystem).</p>
<p>The Marketing (or Education) has worked well&#8230;now let&#8217;s get down to business!<br />
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		<title>By: Wim Rampen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wim Rampen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys need to help me here. What is so important about &quot;The Cloud&quot;? I too see it as &quot;hosting externally&quot; which is not all that exciting to me. So why is &quot;the cloud&quot; exciting and why is this Chatter-thing so exciting in relation to the cloud (it&#039;s obviously not the functionality that is exciting) 

I don&#039;t get the excitement. Please explain, in as little technological words as possible.

Thx. Wim ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys need to help me here. What is so important about &#8220;The Cloud&#8221;? I too see it as &#8220;hosting externally&#8221; which is not all that exciting to me. So why is &#8220;the cloud&#8221; exciting and why is this Chatter-thing so exciting in relation to the cloud (it&#8217;s obviously not the functionality that is exciting) </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get the excitement. Please explain, in as little technological words as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tool itself is not even worth writing about (see my previous post saying that).

The noteworthy stuff here is the evolution of the cloud - the concept of the cloud.  Trust me, since the early 1960s we have been waiting for a truly distributed architecture.  I have been behind -- well, everything I can think of: CORBA, COM/DCOM, Distributed Architectures, TimeShare... and more!  When the internet replaced VANs for inter-connectivity I was excited... and I have been waiting for 15 years to see something being made of that.

So, what is the innovation? Taking nearly 50 years of theory and making it possible? no.  The innovation is to come... Chatter matters as a proof-of-concept and a real data point towards &lt;strong&gt;real&lt;/strong&gt; distributed architectures... it is just wait and see now.

The application? interesting, making the apps talk directly into the social networks is probably best feature -- but nowhere near as exciting as the platform developments.

Am I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tool itself is not even worth writing about (see my previous post saying that).</p>
<p>The noteworthy stuff here is the evolution of the cloud &#8211; the concept of the cloud.  Trust me, since the early 1960s we have been waiting for a truly distributed architecture.  I have been behind &#8212; well, everything I can think of: CORBA, COM/DCOM, Distributed Architectures, TimeShare&#8230; and more!  When the internet replaced VANs for inter-connectivity I was excited&#8230; and I have been waiting for 15 years to see something being made of that.</p>
<p>So, what is the innovation? Taking nearly 50 years of theory and making it possible? no.  The innovation is to come&#8230; Chatter matters as a proof-of-concept and a real data point towards <strong>real</strong> distributed architectures&#8230; it is just wait and see now.</p>
<p>The application? interesting, making the apps talk directly into the social networks is probably best feature &#8212; but nowhere near as exciting as the platform developments.</p>
<p>Am I wrong?</p>
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